In the absence of proof of “police violence”, the experts deem the LBD essential

Among the participants in the seminar organized by Christophe Castaner to "reform the maintenance of order", a faithful expert from BFMTV, Driss Aït Youssef, fervent supporter of the LBD.Mounir Mahjoubi, he salutes the greatness of France and its IGPN on CNews.

"Christophe Castaner wants to reform order of order," announces Olivier Truchot on Monday on BFMTV, on the evening of the interior ministry of a "seminar which brought together various French and international security players"."Actors", David Dufresne, Liberation or Le Monde note, among which there are none of the researchers usually consulted by the UN or the Council of Europe, no representatives of NGOs, no doctors, no lawyers, no victims ... But an "actor" of TF1, Georges Brenier, who explained on January 10 at 8 pm that, "since the start of the yellow vests movement, there has been no burrs, no death, no serious injuries ".

The presenter of BFMTV specifies: "The Minister of the Interior rejects the term" police violence "."He prefers the term" police sweetness "."We are with a participant in this seminar," rengorges Olivier Truchot.Driss Aït Youssef, you are president of the Leonard de Vinci Institute.»And BFMTV consultant.Because the info channel also has its "expert" in Beauvau.The same who pleaded for the mutilation of black blocks last February and which, on March 16, assimilated the slightest use of the LBD to "a political defeat".The presenter questions: "Driss, what did you say during this seminar?"The same as every Saturday on BFMTV, I imagine.Suffice to say that the banner "maintenance of order: change everything?"»Promises to change everything to change nothing.

The expert of the Léonard de Vinci Institute, the Ministry of the Interior and BFMTV lists threats that have appeared in recent years during demonstrations, "thugs", "black blocks", "instant communication by social networks" ... OlivierTruchot takes it up: "You say" demonstrations ", we rather had the impression of attending scenes of riots.And even in insurrectional guerrilla scenes, if I remember correctly.

The presenter addresses the controversial use of the LBD.Alexandra Gonzalez, Journalist Police-Justice, well informed (by Driss Aït Youssef?), Reveals that "the LBD was obviously deemed essential by the experts gathered for this seminar".Changing everything to change nothing is confirmed."But training can be improved.»For more intensive use of LBD."We also talked about technological innovations, for example laser aims in order to allow more precision.»Thanks to drones launched in the Paris sky by Mounir Mahjoubi.

The police-justice expert sums up: "What poses a problem with the LBD is that it makes it possible to stop violence.What is problematic with the LBD is not that it allows to mutilate remote.And for good reason: "This is what the police say."It's better than melee," says Olivier Truchot.Especially in front of a boxer like Christophe Dettinger.

"The LBD makes it possible to put an end to the offenses, boasts Alexandra Gonzalez.But, from a distance, it does not allow you to aim correctly.This is why there are people who find themselves targeted in the face and therefore wrapped out.»The fault is not lucky.Olivier Truchot presses: "A priori, we do not target the face, of course." Of course.But now, what poses a problem with the LBD, details Jean-Marc Manach on Bastamag, it is the specifications of ammunition ordered in 2016, currently in service, which stipulates: "research" of optimal precision "is“Desired” so that the impacts on the targeted person are “necessarily contained in a dispersion rectangle, 50 cm high and 40 cm wide”."Now, notes Jean-Marc Manach," to be sure to spread the head of this "dispersion rectangle", and therefore avoid the risk of ebb, the shooter should a priori aim...the crotch, which is also prohibited ".

Olivier Truchot questions the expert from the Ministry of the Interior, the BFMTV Institute and Léonard de Vinci: "Is it the weapon that is dangerous or those who used it were not welltrained?"The consultant is formal:" This weapon presents a dangerousness but it is essential.»At the mutilation of demonstrators."It is essential but not everywhere," notes the presenter.Especially in France, right?"Yes, but, in Spain, they have rifles with rubber bullets.And in Sudan, they have machine guns with tagada strawberries."And it becomes essential for them.They are hung on Tagada strawberries.

"In France, repeats Driss Aït Youssef, with the LBD, there is a certain dangerousness but it is essential." The danger ?He ensures that the LBD is only "used against the thugs"."There have been lots of testimonies from simple demonstrators who were shot," objected Olivier Truchot."You have three difficulties," admits the BFMTV expert of the Institute of the Ministry of the Interior of Leonardo da Vinci.He quotes "the training of the police", their "supervision" and finally "the target.You have targets that move, which are not static, which are mobile ”.It's annoying.Notice to the demonstrators: if you could play 1, 2, 3, sun when the police put you in play, it would help them to adjust the crotch and thus to avoid any eating.Without that, "we are not targeting the good", regrets Olivier Truchot."We don't know if we don't target the right one, nuance Driss Aït Youssef.There are surveys to determine it.To determine which demonstrator has moved.

"When you have individuals who throw pétanque balls on the police ..." still they?It's crazy, these thousands of pétanque balls that rain every Saturday (from the mouth of Christophe Castaner and those of BFMTV experts)."... if they reply with the LBD, it's always better than with a 9 mm lethal ball.»We live very well with one eye or jaw less - much better than when we are dead."It is justice that will say if the policeman has made illegitimate or disproportionate use of his LBD."Justice known for its speed and severity:" Police have already been convicted of non-compliant regulatory use of flash-ball.»Has suspended, ten years after the facts."If we removed the LBDs and the grenades of de -grazing," worries Olivier Truchot, what would he remain in the end to maintain order?»Leclerc tanks?Combat helicopters?"This is the whole debate, agreed the expert of the Institute of the Leonardo of Vinci from the interior of BFMTV.I say that there is no other choice than to use these weapons."Hence the need to organize a seminar to remind you.

"Christophe Castaner spoke of a new strategy for maintaining order", in turn annoys Laurence Ferrari on CNews.She gives the floor to her guest, Mounir Mahjoubi, LREM candidate at the town hall of Paris."We are France!" He claims.And there is the IGPN!" Cock-a-doodle Doo !I trust him all the more since IGPN acts under the authority of the Interior Ministry and that her director, Brigitte Jullien, disputes as her boss the existence of "police violence"."This is not the case in all countries.»See the Venezuela."No other country has investigated the actions of its own police forces.»See North Korea.

"Reality, insists Mounir Mahjoubi, is that we are in France!»It is warm in the heart of all the mutilated."The reality is that each time, an investigation is launched.But here, by the greatest chance, "no investigation has made it possible to conclude that the responsibility of a police officer was engaged individually", deplores Brigitte Jullien in Le Parisien."Better than that, I do not know if you know, after the broadcast of certain videos, CRS themselves went to the police station to say:" Listen, I think it is I who is designated by this video, I would like to be able to explain myself.”” Half -confessed to half forgiven, and even completely, thanks to the pressures exerted by their unions on policies and judges."France is this country where we have absolute confidence in our police ..." and in the word of Mounir Mahjoubi."... and where there is this permanent control."Celebrated both by the Defender of Rights, the Council of Europe and the UN Human Rights Commission.

Clément Viktorovitch is indignant that justice was not seized with the spell reserved for high school students from Mantes-la-Jolie, Mounir Mahjoubi contests, Laurence Ferrari intervenes: "We were on the yellow vests!"Should not be confused with the repression of suburban high school students with the repression of yellow vests, that has nothing to do.Jean-Claude Dassier admits that there may have been "some rare police violence.There was the fall of this unfortunate woman to ... I don't know ... in Nice ".Unfortunate fall of an unfortunate person who inadvertently tripped."But from there to instruct police violence, with the level of violence that we had opposite ... It is politics !, Takes the editorial writer, angry against Clément Viktorovitch.You do politics!"On the other hand, denying police violence is not doing politics is working on the manifestation of the truth."You are waving wind!"»And Jean-Claude Dassier agitates funny hints.

"I completely agree with Jean-Claude Dassier," reacts Damien Abad, vice-president of LR.Of course there can be a few clumsiness.»Gaffes, dumplings, dizzy."But the reality of the situation is that we have seen unacceptable images in rule of law.As proof, on CNews, the discussion on hypothetical police violence is entirely illustrated by the inadmissible images of the rampage of the triumphal arch and the martyrdom endured by the Fouquet’s store."We have seen traders, craftsmen who saw their turnover divided by two."A turnover amputated in half, this is an authentic mutilation.

Mounir Mahjoubi attacks Clément Viktorobitch, the useful idiot of thugs."Clément, you take for granted all the democratic achievements of our police system in France.»Uh… sorry, what does that mean?That the achievements of the rule of law are not acquired?"It is not the same in other European countries.Some respect the rule of law.